The Great Debate Redux: S&T or Astronomy Magazine

This forum is for discussing all things astronomical that aren't directly related to the activities of the MAS.
Post Reply
dschultz@hamline.edu
Posts: 36
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:38 am

The Great Debate Redux: S&T or Astronomy Magazine

Post by dschultz@hamline.edu »

Hi all: I am life-long reader of S&T but not as impressed with it as I used to be. For those with knowledge of it and Astronomy Magazine, which do you prefer and why?
Last edited by dschultz@hamline.edu on Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:25 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Deane Clark
Posts: 2458
Joined: Wed May 19, 2004 11:38 pm
Location: Mpls

Re: The Great Debate Redux: S&T or Astronomy Magazine

Post by Deane Clark »

I know S&T has gotten skinnier over the years, and I suspect Astronomy has too. Just a result of the media shift to apps and the internet. I still get S&T, but I don’t get around to reading that much of it. What I do read I like. I guess I just want it to still exist.
Deane Clark
Eagle Lake Observatory keyholder
------------------------
I can quit any time I want. I just don't want to.
www.aponon.org
User avatar
Sureshks
Posts: 1238
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:43 pm
Real Name: Suresh Sreenivasan
Location: Hopkins, MN

Re: The Great Debate Redux: S&T or Astronomy Magazine

Post by Sureshks »

I too have been subscribing to both S&T and Astronomy for many years, since 1985.

Astronomy magazine was originally designed to be pointed more towards beginners. Though over the years the content has gotten a bit more advanced. The writing has always seemed to be at a slightly lower grade level than S&T. Their owner, Kalmbach Media, is geared more toward science education for the masses as their mission. In the past they published Odyssey, a science magazine for children. They still own Discover magazine as well.

S&T has always been considered for more advanced amateur astronomers, with observing lists of more difficult objects, more technical articles for imagers, "new product" features, and more sophisticated science articles. Astronomy has also delved in to these subjects more in recent years. But not as consistently as S&T. It will be interesting to see how S&T evolves now that they are owned by the American Astronomical Society.

These days, most people get their astro news over the internet, e-mail digests, or via apps. So perhaps it doesn't matter if you still subscribe to S&T and Astronomy. Still, it is always a highlight to receive these magazines each month, and quickly flip thru their pages. Just like you did many years ago...

I guess it all depends on the reader as to which they prefer. I cannot imagine not having both!

Suresh
Suresh Sreenivasan
B-SIG/FB/Metcalf Comm

Refr: AP 130mm GTX/SW 120mm/Borg 4"/Unitron 150 4"/Jason 2.25”
Dobs: ATM 16"/Orion 12”
Newts: Cave 8" RFT/Criterion RV6/Astroscan 4"/Orion 3.6" TCT
SNs: Meade 6"/Celestron 5.5"
SCTs: Celestron 9.25"/8”/B&L Criterion 4”
Maks: SW 7"/Quantum 4"/Meade 3.5” ETX
Cass: Vixen 8” VISAC/Simmons 4.5"
RC: MallinCam 10"
Sol: Lunt 80mm DS/PST
Bino: Vixen 12x80/Nikon 10x50
Mounts: CGX/EQ6r-Pro/AVX/GDPX/Porta II
User avatar
bhamil
Posts: 241
Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:26 am
Real Name: Brandon Hamil
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth, TX

Re: The Great Debate Redux: S&T or Astronomy Magazine

Post by bhamil »

I thought I would chime in on this debate as I get both of them. Frankly, it is simply hard to keep up with reading both of them. I also seem to find they clearly benchmark off of each other - meaning if one has an article on a topic, that topic often will appear in the other publication shortly thereafter. Nevertheless, if you have to choose, I would go with S&T. Their contributing editors are “one of us.” Meaning, dedicated amateur astronomers.

Currently, Astronomy is on sale for $13.99 with an auto rate lock / auto renewal. Just call me if you cannot find that offer. I’m really bad about checking private messages from the forums. Plus I would rather talk to club members than email them anyway!
Brandon Hamil
651-436-3888 (Cell)
--------------------------------------------
Former,Cherry Grove Observatory Committee
SCTs: CPC 800, CPC 1100, C14
Refractors: TeleVue NP101, TEC 140
Solar Scopes: Coronado 40mm PST, LUNT 100 DS
Canon 12x36 image stabilized Binoculars
100% visual observer
User avatar
SEmert
Posts: 1802
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 2:48 pm
Real Name: Steve Emert
Location: White Bear Lake, MN

Re: The Great Debate Redux: S&T or Astronomy Magazine

Post by SEmert »

I also subscribe to both. It's hard to quantify, but I prefer S&T over Astronomy a little. Part of it is that S&T has "The Astronomer's Workbench" column and features amateur telescope maker projects more often that Astronomy. To me, they both seem to have a similar mix of astronomical research articles, although S&T's articles may go just a tad more in-depth. Another consideration is that S&T is now owned by the American Astronomical Association, so going forward one could speculate that they may increase the scientific orientation of the magazine over time.

To the positive side of the discussion for Astronomy, they do have a good set of columnists, most especially Bob Berman (who we got to meet a couple years ago at the ALCON hosted by the MAS in Bloomington.

Personally, I get enough out of both that I am going to continue subscribing to both magazines - especially since I used the new club procedure to renew my subscriptions for the longer subscriptions (missing out, alas, on the super sale rate Brandon just mentioned!).
Steve Emert
MAS Membership Coordinator
12.5" f/4.7 Obsession Clone Homemade Truss Dob, sometimes equipped with Celestron StarSense Explorer app
Celestron C8 SCT OTA on AVX GEQ mount
Astro-Tech AT72 ED Refractor OTA usually on Explore Scientific Twilight 1 mount or tripod with Benro geared head
Celestron 5" SCT OTA on Explore Scientific Twilight 1 Alt-Az Mount, usually equipped with StarSense Explorer app
Orion 150mm Mak OTA and Orion EQ-G computerized mount
petemn2004
Posts: 236
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:01 pm
Real Name: Mark Petersen
Location: Maple Grove, MN

Re: The Great Debate Redux: S&T or Astronomy Magazine

Post by petemn2004 »

I had a subscription from Sky & Telescope since 1974. Sky & Telescope had changed quite a bit in the past few years. They have had their struggles. I dropped them in 2016 and since 2014 I now get Astronomy magazine.

Mark
User avatar
Deane Clark
Posts: 2458
Joined: Wed May 19, 2004 11:38 pm
Location: Mpls

Re: The Great Debate Redux: S&T or Astronomy Magazine

Post by Deane Clark »

petemn2004 wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:55 pm I had a subscription from Sky & Telescope since 1974. Sky & Telescope had changed quite a bit in the past few years. They have had their struggles. I dropped them in 2016 and since 2014 I now get Astronomy magazine.

Mark
How would you say S&T has changed lately? I haven’t noticed a big change other than getting thinner, a redesign, and maybe an increased focus on imaging, which seems logical with all the new products and imagers out there.
Deane Clark
Eagle Lake Observatory keyholder
------------------------
I can quit any time I want. I just don't want to.
www.aponon.org
petemn2004
Posts: 236
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:01 pm
Real Name: Mark Petersen
Location: Maple Grove, MN

Re: The Great Debate Redux: S&T or Astronomy Magazine

Post by petemn2004 »

I started subscribing to Astronomy magazine in 2011 while I still had been receiving Sky & Telescope since 1974.

I wanted to par down my subscriptions and I found the articles in Astronomy magazine to be much more interesting compared to those in the later years of the last decade of Sky & Telescope.

Some articles I thought were interesting in Astronomy magazine just this year:

January:
In Pursuit of Planet 9
Tour 5 Great Australian Observatories

February:
Our first Interstellar Visitor
Lowell Observatory Turns 125
Astronomy’s Electronic Revolution

March:
30 Years: Hubble's Greatest Hits
How the Ritchey-Cretien Telescope was Born

April:
Jim Lovell – Remember Triumph Over Tragedy
Apollo 13 in 3D

May:
Is the Big Bang in Crisis?
V.M. Slipher’s Expanding Universe
Warm and Not so Fuzzy (Spitzer Space Telescope)
Expanding the Worlds of Galaxies

Astronomy magazine has done an in-depth article for each Apollo mission on the month that mission happened 50 years ago. For the Astronomy July 2019 issue the story of the Apollo 11 mission was covered extensively. In the Sky & Telescope issue for July 2019, Apollo 11 was barely mentioned.

Alan Stern, the instigator and Principal Investigator for the New Horizon mission to Pluto and Ultima Thule, wrote quite a few articles on these subjects for Astronomy magazine.

I wanted to get down to one subscription and for me it is Astronomy magazine.


Mark
User avatar
Deane Clark
Posts: 2458
Joined: Wed May 19, 2004 11:38 pm
Location: Mpls

Re: The Great Debate Redux: S&T or Astronomy Magazine

Post by Deane Clark »

I don’t know if it’s a sign of anything, other than the COVID effect perhaps, but I just noticed the August 2020 S&T does not contain a Tele Vue ad 😳. As far back as I can remember, they’ve always had an ad inside the front cover.
Deane Clark
Eagle Lake Observatory keyholder
------------------------
I can quit any time I want. I just don't want to.
www.aponon.org
Post Reply